I realized it was because I was wearing a gold bikini, a lot of piercings, and was covered in glitter. Apparently most animals are instinctively very attracted to glittery things—our brains are just drawn to them. So I figured, Why not smear it all over my face?
I think of myself as just like. You have to have a dance party in Milan one day, and then wake up and have a dance party at, like, four in the morning on national television in L. The hours are insane. But I love The Velvet Underground, too. I love country music, blues, and punk, and one day I might make those kinds of records. Nashville Skyline [] by Bob Dylan is definitely my favorite album of all time.
I want to save her. Courtney Love is cool, but thank you, I think my soul is fine. My favorite, though, is a lesser known story that I heard about you relieving yourself in a sink in a London pub while Lily Allen sang to you.
And he had the first DX7 synthesizer I'd ever seen. So, we would go in and work on stuff, him and I, on the weekends when nobody was there. I realized he was more talented than any of the other people who were supposedly running this place — like, he was the true, hidden gem of talent there.
And so we recorded it in probably During this time I was living in Nashville but I was working in L. Eventually at some point in , I had this package of music together that Guy and I had worked on and I had several big record companies interested, and one of the record companies set up a big session for me with one of their big producers and managers and lawyers — the whole nine yards. And then my ex-husband called me up and said he'd fallen in love with my son's Montessori school teacher, and he was basically leaving me.
So, this was on Friday, and the sessions were the following Monday. And I was very immature, emotionally; I was not a complete drug addict, but definitely I was using more than I should have, and definitely drinking way too much. So, I just really lost it and disappeared. I don't think most women would handle the news that their husband was having an affair with their kid's teacher very well. Well, maybe not. But I mean, I just felt like I had all the ducks in a row.
It was the perfect storm: Monday was the big day, I got the news on Friday, and then he flew out and brought my son Lagan out to me in the middle of all that. And I just completely lost it and disappeared. I went and rented a duplex in the Valley, and the only person who knew where I was for six months was the drug dealer.
I just lost it so completely that I didn't really know what to do. Of course he would leave you, because you were always in L. I mean, he's still happily married to that woman. In retrospect, it was the best thing that could've ever happened. What an antiquated, patriarchal thing to say! Anyway, I fell apart and cut contact with pretty much almost everybody I was working with. I walked away from my publishing deal because they had said something that pissed me off, and I was living on welfare, and nobody knew where I was.
All those lawyers and managers, all those record company people — I just didn't show up for the sessions the next week. View this post on Instagram. A post shared by Pebe Sebert pebeinsta. Well, eventually you became a successful songwriter, with a big career behind the scenes. But at that time, were you just persona non grata in the industry? Fast-forward: At the end of this period, I ended up getting pregnant with Kesha, having her, and I was still not completely sober then.
And then eventually I did get completely sober, still living in L. But during that time period, we were either living on welfare, or eventually I was being a personal assistant for Steven Spielberg's personal assistant.
I did some classy things, like F. Kesha had this big thing that this never be made public, but for F. And Kesha even has a little part in a game show [scene]. I've hidden this from the world for many years, but it's out now. Yes, I had to work, and I did all kinds of things. So, I spent two years waiting tables and cleaning houses, when Kesha was 5 or 6 years old, while I put a catalog together. And then eventually I started being a staff writer again. It was a big rift. A lot of my friends were people that played tennis with my ex-husband, that sort of stuff, so they were all Team Hugh.
So, even though it was probably in my own mind, I perceived that I was not welcomed back in Nashville. Now he was this huge, successful guy. It was just a very humbling time. I would end up cleaning the toilets of somebody I met back when I was a big deal. It was a very humbling experience. And it was about your relationship, right? Yeah, that was a good line [ laughs ]. And lo and behold, that was one of the biggest hits of my career.
Is it bittersweet for you that one of your biggest hits is tied to a happy time with your now ex-husband — especially because things went so wrong with him later? Sebert spoke with Billboard contributor Danielle Bacher about her daughter's experiences with Dr. Luke, who she alleges was abusive towards her for 10 years.
As Pebe told Bacher, Kesha "was a prisoner. It was like someone who beats you every day and hangs you from a chain and then comes in and gives you a piece of bread. Bacher also recently interviewed comedian Margaret Cho and musician Amber Coffman of Dirty Projectors about their experiences as victims of sexual assault. Teen Vogue : How many hours did you spend on the phone with Pebe?
It seemed like such an exhaustive process, like you really got to know her. Danielle Bacher: I would estimate Pebe and I spent around 15 hours on the phone over the course of two weeks.
We communicated through emails and texts as well. DB: She only spoke about negative experiences with Luke and Kesha, but she has told me she's heard of other musicians who have had similar experiences with other men in the industry. TV: Was it difficult to find music producers, PR people, executives, and other people inside the story to comment?
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